man, a woman, those guys when you say kids, they're pretty big, they're pretty big. so i can understand him, you know, and he did call the authorities. i mean, look, if we were all following the nra, he would have been armed and there probably would have been dead kids. so, you know, i think that this ended as well as it could have for a horrible situation. >> why are you smiling? you're saying dead drug dealer kids? >> it's not that. >> are you going there? >> the next step is the nra -- you know what the next step is? hire security guards. you want to use money from the school budget, hire security guards on every single bus. the bus driver's job is to get them home safely and to school safely. >> now, the situation could have turned out differently. i think as dean and stephanie point out, this man was obviously conflicted, he was horribly afraid and trying to help this child. but he thought they could boat him to death. what if the child had been beaten to death? then what would you say? >> oh, gosh, i don't know that i would have changed my opinion one way or the other. listen, the police officer agrees with me. i think he should have stepped in.